Jason Houser joins Tavis Smiley

On the Tavis Smiley Radio Podcast: Jason Houser, the former Chief of Staff of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), breaks down reality vs. rhetoric about immigration and why he thinks President Donald Trump's plan is backfiring.

Listen to the full interview.

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